Dec 2020: Meeting Notes

Dec 05, 2020: Review of Vaanprasth Yagna, Its Website, Past Sessions

This meeting was to state the objective of Vaanprasth and past activities. Since most of the students were busy with exam and we wanted to maintain the routine of having this session on Saturday.

We had good attendance: SST -- Sam, Ashok-DS52, Pankaj, INK, VKJ, Pranay, Atul, Akash, Rangnath, Shiv [Arun-Couldn’t join due to network issue]; Students – Payal, Preeti, Ravi, Gaurav, Kashyap, Sarang; Others – Shyam, Nikhil, Dinesh, Anupam, Ramashish Babu, Richa Shukla;

First Time comers: Richa, Akash, Rangnath, Pranay, Ramashish

Rangnath Ji – Wanted to get a brief description to be sent to his contacts.

Shyam – Suggested to pay Stipend to volunteers, which I declined and offered to send him the NGO charter document for him to read.

Anupam + Shyam + Others: Why not start a youtube channel. I informed them that this was in plans.

Pranay – Offered to guide anyone interested in Aeronauticals.

Shiv – suggested all to register on the site and created sessions/ requests.

Dec 12, 2020: Toefl, GRE

Attendees: Lena, Pritish Sai, Bhavya, Abhisek, MPSharma, S Tiwari, Payal, Anuj Gaurav, Benuja, INK, Sarang, Saurabh Gupta, Shiv,

Discussion:

Pritish: His prep and getting in to US. Rochester Graduate, working for Verizon now

Bhavya: Toefl & GRE, Had some work experience; I-20 then Visa application; IT consultant, did Masters in IT as well. After OPT, getting H-1 is very difficult.

Abhishek: What you want to study MBA or Masters? Which country? Research for Professor? Lots of loan? Grow connections. Time it takes to get GC – struggling with Immi status. Talk to elders, alumni

Lena – Professor, ESL & Toefl: Test of Proficiency in English as Foreign Language. Aim 5 points above what college requires, Every Industry/ College has their own need of Score. Indians have high level of English. ETS – lessons offered free also. Reading, Speaking and Writing. Record your speaking and then listen back. Integrated questions – use ETS materials.  Free: EDx.org – Toefl Test Prep -- https://www.edx.org/course/toefl-test-preparation-the-insiders-guide

https://www.facebook.com/tutorfortoefl

ETS – Register for Test, has all the details; Toefl Home Edition – you can download and take test from home. Details on ETS.org – proctored. Suggest to go to testing center.

Work with Students: Need to improve pronunciation, vocabulary. Start practice early. Also on coursera website.

Abhisek: DuoLingo to learn second language

INK: Did you feel any racism in US/ Canada. Pritish - Universities are least racist. Outside is different – Big Stores are less racist, family owned businesses are a bit racist.

MPSharma: Toefl and GRE are small part of the effort. Forum for networking: can be a topic in itself.

Pritish: Networking is very important

 

Dec 19, 2020: 2nd Meeting on Careers in Legal Field

Attendees: Payal, Preeti, Atul, Kinjal, Gaurav

Discussion:  As documented by Payal

-practice reading novels, newspaper, books etc.
-Logical reasoning
-must have a good command over English
-practice is most important key
-try solving past year papers
-stay connected with current affairs through newspaper
-The Hindu newspaper is best


How to dive into legal fields?(question by Payal and Gaurav)
-After 12th can pursue 5year integrated LLB course(have to appear in CLAT first)
-After graduation, can go for 3 year LLB course( Most University doesn't offer this course,but still there are such University which offers the same DELHI UNIVERSITY is one of them)

Is legal field overcrowded?(question by Preeti)
-Legal field has never been overcrowded
-lawyers never lay off their jobs.

 

Dec 19, 2020: Discussion on Education in Europe and Russia.

Attendees: Shiv, Alok, Anand (Pinku), Amogh - Anand's Son, Tinku- Anupam, Pragya, Jyotsna, Gaurav, Navneet, Najeerul Ameen Ameer Jahan -- AJ Trust, Pushpam Mishra, Divya - duaghter of Hanuman Jha, Sindhu Gowda, Pranay Ranjan, Munna -- Air Force, Ramesh; Sakshi, Divyanshu, Ritik Kumar, Indra Narayan Khan, Dr. Avinash Kr -- BAJNA President

Discussions

Pushpam (PA to Najeerul)-- Scholarship is another vehicle + Paid one as well; Cost of Pvt college in Russia costs less. His org chooses 10 Indian Students as Govt Sponsored, 12th - 85% score; NMC recommendation is needed, Pvt College in Russia costs about 30 Lakhs for 4 years; Govt sponsored - 2 seats -- govt pays almost all. 

Alok: Experience in Mech Engineer - 6 year course, Language course first, 4 years, then you can do Masters, Fees -- 3 tiers of Universities, cost varies -- $20K in large cities, $10K in Small Cities. Cold is extreme -- which creates issue for Indians. 

Ramesh: Graduate from Moscow University, Working in Canada. You are ready on day-one after education. Their education is at par with western education.

Anupam: These days, education in English is also given. Russian language is a subject. All enclosed area is heated.

Sindhu: Study outside is lonely but good learning experience. Racism in Europe. More opportunities in Germany/ Italy. Apply for Grants from Universities, Internships enables you to get some money. Europe education is very practical. 

Navneet: I have studied Maths in up to 10th and 11th -- What is common tests for study in Russia -- level of tests.

 

Dec 26, 2020: Discussion on Career Opportunity in Merchant Navy

Attendees: Shiv, Surendra, Ramashish Chy, Gaurav, Ritik, Akash, Pragya, Prabhat Ranjan, Prince Singh, Avinash, Abhisekh Anand,

Discussion: 

Ramashish -- 81-82- TS Rajendra Batch, Worked in Shipping Corporation and many other companies.

Career Counselling is very important, In India, it is not formal and students depend on parents, some colleges do provide limited counselling. Take counsellor help. Many students don't know about Merchant Navy. TS Rajendra entrance exam was combined with JEE in my time. 80% of goods are transported by merchant ships worldwide, employees are well paid of, get a chance to visit various countries. Life is tough. It is also called second line of defense. Officers work 6 to 8 months and sailors work for 9 -12 months at a stretch, Multinational crew is there. Story -- ship was crossing Suez Canal, how many nationalities - 7 nationalities, different working culture. It is seeing the recession now, in 80s, 2000 and 2008 -- were also recessionary. In such time, there are lay-offs, reduced payments, Tankers -- 200 to 250 meters length, limited food supply, medicine, 
Brief History and Admission Process -- First Training Ship -- TS Duffering, then TS Rajendra [King Rajendra Chola] -- served 21 years. Now shore based institutions -- TS Chankya; For engineering -- Dte of Marine Engg -- Kolkata and Mumbai. Admission -- IMU CET exam after 12th grade -- PCM -- 60% and English - 50% min. Engg is optional. Some government colleges also admit based on JEE. Trainees are sent on-board after 1 year for 6 months for on-boarding training, then take competitive to become port engg.Deck side -- administrative officers. Hierarchy starts with 3 rd Offr.... Admin, Engg, Electrical, Catering, Crew -- are departments. Top colleges: Coimbatore, etc. PG Diploma in Marine is also there. Students need to be un-married at the time of joining, vision has to be 6 by 6 for each eye, Age limit -- 17 to 22 years etc. Physical fitness is very important -- medical fitness exam.

Scope of Merchant Navy Careers in India: being lucrative career, it has lot of competition, many types of cargos and hence different types of careers.

Gaurav -- Coast Guard Careers

For more information please go to Indian Maritime University website https://www.imu.edu.in//